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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2015 17:37
Shi'a Belief in the Awaited Mahdi

Shaykh Dr. 'Ali Muhammad as-Sallaabee


One of the most prominent beliefs of the Rafidi Shia, with which their books are filled, is belief in the awaited Mahdi. What the Imami Rafidis mean by the awaited Mahdi is Muhammad ibn al-Hasan al-'Askari, who is their twelfth Imam and whom they call 'the proof' and 'the one who stands for the truth'.

They claim that he was bom in 255 AH and that he hid in the tunnel of Samarra in 265 AH; they are waiting for his appearance at the end of time, when he will avenge them against their enemies and support them. The Rafidi Shia still visit the tunnel of Samarra and call upon him to emerge.

In fact, this Mahdi who is claimed by the Rafidis is non-existent. Al-Hasan al-'Askari, whom they name as his father, died without leaving any child behind; his estate was divided between his mother and his brother Ja'far. This Shiite belief in the awaited Mahdi is accompanied by many myths and fables that no rational person could believe. They believe that the Mahdi is one of the descendants of al-Husayn رضي الله عنه, and they narrate strange stories about him.

They say that when he emerges, the Rafidi Shia will come from all over to rally around him. He will bring the noble Companions رضي الله عنهم out of their graves and punish them; he will kill the Arabs and Quraysh; he will destroy the Ka'bah, the Prophet's صلى الله عليه وسلم Mosque and all other mosques; he will call people to a new religion, a new book and new laws; and he will conquer cities with the Ark of the Covenant of the Jews.

Two springs, of water and milk, will flow for him, and one Shiite Rafidi man will gain the strength of forty men; he will give them strength and power in their hearing and vision, and he will rule according to the law of the family of Dawood عليه السلام.

The beliefs of the Rafidi Shia concerning their awaited Mahdi are false. This fact is indicated by a number of things:

It is Proven that this Mahdi was not Born


By the wisdom of Allah سبحانه و تعالى, it was decreed that al-Hasan al-'Askari, the eleventh Imam of the Rafidis, should die childless. This was a great scandal and a major setback for the Rafidi Shia: how could the Imam die without having any sons who could succeed him as Imam? Their belief is that the one who succeeds the imam after his death must be his son, and it is not permissible for the imamate to be passed to a brother after al-Hasan رضي الله عنه and al-Husayn رضي الله عنه. The fact that this Mahdi was not born is proven in the books of the Shia themselves.

It Makes No Sense for the Mahdi to Disappear


If we accept for argument's sake that this Mahdi was born, it makes no sense for him to disappear for this long time in the tunnel. When the Rafidi Shia are asked about the wisdom behind his disappearance in the tunnel and his not coming out to the people, they explain that he feared for his life. This is a weak excuse, and many things show this to he false. It is narrated in their books that he will be supported by Allah سبحانه و تعالى and will gain control of the entire earth, east and west. He will fill the earth with justice as it was filled with injustice, and he will live until the time when 'Eesa ibn Maryam [Jesus the son of Mary عليه السلام] descends.

What they say means that the Mahdi will never emerge until the states of injustice and oppression and evil go away, so that he can feel that his life is safe - but at that time there will be no need for him to emerge. These states are able to protect him if he emerges, so why does he not emerge? The one who cannot protect himself from being killed will not he able to protect others either, because the one who does not have a thing cannot give it. How can they he waiting for someone like that to avenge them against their enemies and cause them to prevail? Thus their claims are proven invalid, because the reason why the Mahdi has not emerged is that he fears for his life. Based on that, the claim that the Mahdi existed at all is rendered invalid, because nothing is preventing him from coming out of hiding except fear for his life, as was clearly stated by Shaykh at-Ta'ifah at-Toosi.

So the claims about the existence of the Mahdi are proven false by the testimony of their own scholars, and this is by the grace of Allah سبحانه و تعالى.

No Benefit has been Achieved by this Mahdi


Another indication of the falseness of the Rafidi Shiite belief in the awaited Mahdi is that this Mahdi, who the Rafidis claim will emerge, has not achieved any interest, religious or worldly, and the Muslims have not benefited from him at all, either the Rafidis or any others. Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah said: "This infallible one, whom they claim was born at some time more than four hundred and fifty years ago, entered the tunnel, according to them, in 260 AH, when he was five years old according to some of them, or younger than that according to others. He did not do anything that the infallible Imam does. What benefits can there be in the existence of such a one, even if he did exist? So how about if he never existed at all? What blessing or benefit did those who believed in this infallible one attain by means of him in their religious or worldly interests? ... This figure in whom the Rafidis believe must be either absent, according to them, or non-existent, according to people of reason. Whatever the case, there is no benefit to anyone in either religious or worldly terms."

The Twelver Shia nowadays have gone against this belief in practical terms through their belief in the theory of 'guardianship of the jurist', which allows ruling and governing by an ordinary Muslim who is not infallible and for whom there is no instruction or text from Allah and His Messenger, provided that he has knowledge and is of good character.

The Belief of Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah


The sound hadiths state that at the end of time, Allah سبحانه و تعالى will bring forth a man from Ahlul-Bayt through whom Allah سبحانه و تعالى will cause Islam to prevail. He will rule for seven years, filling the earth with justice and peace as it had been filled with injustice and oppression. During his rule, the Ummah will enjoy blessings that it never enjoyed before; the earth will bring forth its vegetation, the sky will send down rain, and he will give wealth without measure. The following are some of these hadiths:

It was narrated from Abu Sa'eed al-Khudri رضي الله عنه that the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم said: "At the end of my Ummah, the Mahdi will appear. Allah will send a great deal of rain for him, the earth will bring forth its vegetation, and he will distribute wealth equally among the people. The numbers of livestock will increase, and the Ummah will become great. He will live for seven or eight years."

It was also narrated from Abu Sa'eed al-Khudri رضي الله عنه that the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم said: "The Hour will not begin until the earth is filled with oppression and enmity. Then a man from my family will emerge, and he will fill it with fairness and justice as it was filled with oppression and enmity."

It was narrated that Thawban رضي الله عنه said: "The Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم said: 'Three will fight one another for your treasure, each one of them the son of a caliph, but none of them will gain it. Then the black banners will come from the east, and they will kill you in an unprecedented manner.' He mentioned something that I do not remember, then he said: 'When you see him, pledge your allegiance to him even if you have to crawl over the snow, for that is the caliph of Allah, the Mahdi.'"

Imam Ibn Katheer said: "What is meant by the treasure mentioned in this report is the treasure of the Ka'bah, three sons of caliphs will be killed fighting for it until, at the end of time, the Mahdi will appear. His appearance will be from a land in the east, not from the tunnel of Samarra in which the ignorant Rafidis claim he has been until now, where they are waiting for him to emerge at the end of time. This is a kind of madness and a great deal of misguidance from Satan, because there is no proof or evidence for that, either from the Qur'an or the Sunnah, or any rational evidence .... He will be supported by people from the east, who will establish his rule. Their banners will be black, which is the colour of dignity, because the banner of the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم was black and was called al-'Iqaab... What is meant is that the promised, praiseworthy Mahdi who will appear at the end of time will originate and appear and emerge from the east, and allegiance will be sworn to him at the Ka'bah, as is indicated by some hadiths."

It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah رضي الله عنه said that he heard the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم say: "How will you be when the son of Maryam descends and your leader is one of you?"

It was narrated that Jabir ibn 'Abdillah رضي الله عنه said that he heard the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم say: "A group among my Ummah will continue to fight for the truth and will prevail until the Day of Resurrection. 'Eesa ibn Maryam will descend, and their leader will say: 'Come and lead us in prayer,' but he will say: 'No, you are leaders of one another,' as an honour from Allah to this Ummah."

The hadiths, which are narrated in Bukhari and Muslim, indicate two things:

(1) That when 'Eesa ibn Maryam عليه السلام descends from heaven, the one in charge of the Muslims will be one of them.

(2) That their ruler will be there to lead the Muslims in prayer, and the fact that he will ask 'Eesa عليه السلام to lead them in prayer when he descends indicates that this ruler will be righteous and guided.

There are other hadiths in the Sunan and Musnads and elsewhere that explain these hadiths that appear in Bukhari and Muslim, they indicate that the name of that righteous man will be Muhammad ibn Abdillah and he will be called the Mahdi. The reports of the Sunnah support and explain each another.

It was narrated that Abu Sa'eed al-Khudri رضي الله عنه said that the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم said: "He is one of us behind whom 'Eesa ibn Maryam will pray."

It was narrated that Abu Sa'eed al-Khudri رضي الله عنه said that the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم said: "The Mahdi is of me. He has a high forehead and a prominent nose. He will fill the world with fairness and justice as it was filled with wrongdoing and injustice, and he will rule for seven years."

There is no connection at all between the Mahdi of the Sunnah and the Mahdi of the Rafidi Shia. There are many differences between them, such as:

(1) According to Ahlus-Sunnah, the Mahdi's name is Muhammad ibn Abdillah, his name is the same as the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم and his father's name is the same as the Prophet's صلى الله عليه وسلم father. As for the Mahdi of the Rafidi Shia, his name is Muhammad ibn al-Hasan al-'Askari.

(2) According to Ahlus-Sunnah, the Mahdi is one of the descendants of al-Hasan رضي الله عنه. The Mahdi of the Rafidi Shia is one of the descendants of al-Husayn رضي الله عنه.

(3) According to Ahlus-Sunnah, the Mahdi will be born naturally, and his lifespan will be natural. There is nothing in the hadiths to indicate that he is at all different from other people in that regard. As for the Mahdi of the Rafidi Shia, his conception and birth happened in one night, and he entered the tunnel when he was nine years old; now he has been in the tunnel for more than 1150 years.

(4) The Mahdi, according to Ahlus-Sunnah, will emerge to support Islam and the Muslims, and he will not differentiate between one nation and another. As for the Mahdi of the Rafidi Shia, he will emerge to support only the Rafidi Shia and to wreak vengeance on their enemies. He will hate the Arabs and Quraysh and will give them nothing but the sword; there will be no Arabs among his followers, according to their reports.

(5) The Mahdi of Ahlus-Sunnah will love the Companions رضي الله عنهم of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم; he will ask Allah to he pleased with them and will adhere to their way. He will also love the Mothers of the Believers رضى الله عنهنّ and will not mention them except in the best terms. As for the Mahdi of the Rafidi Shia, they claim that he will hate the Companions of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم and will bring them out of their graves in order to punish them and then burn them. He will also hate the Mothers of the Believers رضى الله عنهنّ and will despise the dearest of the Prophet's صلى الله عليه وسلم wives to him, as-Siddeeqah bint as-Siddeeq 'A'ishah رضي الله عنها - or so they claim.

(6) The Mahdi of Ahlus-Sunnah will act according to the Sunnah of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم; he will not leave any Sunnah without establishing it or any innovation without suppressing it. As for the Mahdi of the Rafidi Shia, he will call people to a new religion and a new book.

(7) The Mahdi of Ahlus-Sunnah will build and frequent mosques. As for the Mahdi of the Rafidi Shia, he will destroy mosques; he will destroy al-Masjid al-Haraam and the Ka'bah, and the Prophet's صلى الله عليه وسلم Mosque, and will not leave a single mosque on the face of the earth - as is clearly stated in their reports.

(8) The Mahdi of Ahlus-Sunnah will rule in accordance with the Book of Allah سبحانه و تعالى and the Sunnah of His Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم. As for the Mahdi of the Rafidi Shia, he will rule according to the law of the family of Dawood عليه السلام.

(9) The Mahdi of Ahlus-Sunnah will emerge from the east. As for the Mahdi of the Rafidi Shia, he will emerge from the tunnel of Samarra.

(10) The Mahdi of Ahlus-Sunnah is true and proven, as indicated by the hadiths of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم and the words of the scholars of the past and of the present. As for the Mahdi of the Rafidi Shia, he is a figment of their imagination who has not appeared and will never appear.

['Ali Ibn Abi Talib, Volume 2, pp. 562-570.]
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2015 21:49
Imam mendhi doesn't exit in any verse of quran. It's a man-made concept which early Muslim borrowed from Christianity.
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2015 22:21
And where did you come to this unfounded conclusion?.......I suggest you read some hadeeth books and you will find that The Noble Last Prophet Hazrat Muhammad SallALLAHU Alayhi Wassallam told us of His coming

please read the following


The Signs of Imaam Mahdi

1) He will be from the progeny of the Prophet Peace and blessings be upon him and descendent of Fatimah (radiallahu anha). Umme Salama (radiallahu anha) reported: I heard the Prophet of Allah (Peace and blessings be upon him) saying, "The Mahdi will appear from my progeny, from the descendants of Fatimah." (Abu Daud)

2) His name will be Muhammad or Ahmad and his father's name will be Abdullah. Ibn Mas'ood (radiallahu anh) reported that the Prophet Peace and blessings be upon him said, "If there remains in the world but a day, the mighty Allah will greatly prolong that day till he will send there in a man from me or from the members of my house. His name will be similar to my name and his father's name to my father's name." (Abu Daud)

3) He will resemble the Prophet Peace and blessings be upon him in character. Hadrat Ali (radiallahu anh) once looked at his son and remarked, "This son of mine is Saiyid who was named by the Prophet Peace and blessings be upon him and soon from his loins will come forth a man by the name of your Prophet Peace and blessings be upon him and who will resemble him in conduct but not in appearance." (Abu Daud)

4) He will have a shiny forehead and a high bridge nose. Abu Saeed radiallahu anh reported that the Prophet Peace and blessings be upon him said, "The Mahdi will appear from me, shining of forehead, long of nose." (Abu Daud)

5) Once Hadrat Ali radiallahu anh was asked regarding his description. He replied, "He is a well built youth of average height and a handsome face, his hair reaches his shoulders and the light of his face is contrasted by the darkness of his hair and beard." (Al-Isha'ah)

6) He will be slow of speech (a slight stutter) and when he is delayed, he will strike his left thigh with his right hand." (Al-Isha'ah)

7) He will appear from the east. Thawban (R.A) reported that the Prophet Peace and blessings be upon him said, "Three men will be killed at the place where your treasure is. Each of them will be the son of a Khalifah but none of them will get hold of the treasure. Then the black banners will come out of the east, and they will slaughter you in a way that has never been seen before. If you see him give him your allegiance, even if you have to crawl over ice, because he is the Khalifah of Allah, the Mahdi." (Ibn Majah)

Only some of the signs that will precede Imaam Mahdi and of the Mahdi himself have been gathered in this book. The true Mahdi, the one referred to in the Ahadith of Prophet Peace and blessings be upon him as one of the signs of Qiyamah, is the one in whom the pre-mentioned signs are found.
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2015 23:11
We all know Imam Mahdi doesn't "exit" from/in the Qur'an nor is his mention required because the religion of Allah is only fully completed when we follow both, the Quran and authentic Hadith. Sounds like this member, difficult, is ill advised by the submitters or Ahle Qur'an.
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 27th January 2015 03:48
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Man, you also don't "exit" in any verse of the Quran.
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 27th January 2015 20:46
yes, I don't exist in Quran and I was never been inherit tunnel hiding myself either. I'm not mendhi and stop propagating your message which you can't authenticity from Quran.
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 27th January 2015 21:32
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Your post is filled with errors, please try to keep the sentence clear.

As you have been told, not EVERYTHING is in the Qur'an. Islam is incomplete without the authentic traditions called Ahaadith. Without Hadith, we can not fully comprehend our religion and the Quran itself gives us that evidence.

If you don't follow or accept Hadith, then you have no chance of practicing your religion completely.

You are very ill informed and I would suggest you either come clean and stop wasting our time or learn about the religion properly.
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 27th January 2015 22:05
Brother difficult. ...Please try to understand that in order for us to do certain actions or understand certain things which have happened in islamic history or will inshaAllah happen in the future we have to look at saheeh ahadeeth and gain our knowledge from this also....

Instead of firing blanks at us please stop behaving ignorant and ask questions as this is how you will learn.
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 27th January 2015 22:13
By the sounds of it, member difficult is of the submitters.
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 28th January 2015 00:46
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yes, I don't exist in Quran and I was never been inherit tunnel hiding myself either.[/quote]

Is trolling your sole intention? We are denying his emergence from the tunnel. Have you even read that article?

[quote](9) The Mahdi of Ahlus-Sunnah will emerge from the east. As for the Mahdi of the Rafidi Shia, he will emerge from the tunnel of Samarra.
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 28th January 2015 20:14
if Mr Imam mendhi Is not mentioned in Quran, how he become such a significant islamic personality? How can you authentic your views?

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 28th January 2015 20:53
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Truth is that you yourself are difficult :) for us, we don't like to make life so complicated.

I already told you, what's so difficult for you?

We follow the Qur'an and Sunnah.
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 28th January 2015 21:00
I would also like to add Proof of the importance of the Sunnah/Hadith from the Qur'an itself:

1. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): "He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allah..." [4:80] Allah described obedience to the Prophet (peace be upon him) as being a part of obedience to Him. Then He made a connection between obedience to Him and obedience to the Prophet (peace be upon him): "O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger..." [4:59]

2. Allah warns us not to go against the Prophet (peace be upon him), and states that whoever disobeys him will be doomed to eternal Hell. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): "...And let those who oppose the Messenger's commandment beware, lest some fitnah (trial, affliction, etc.) befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them." [24:63]

3. Allah has made obedience to His Prophet a religious duty; resisting or opposing it is a sign of hypocrisy: "But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you [Muhammad] judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission." [4:65]

4. Allah commands His slaves to respond to Him and His Messenger: "O you who believe! Answer Allah (by obeying Him) and (His) Messenger when he calls you to that which will give you life..." [8:24]

5. Allah also commands His slaves to refer all disputes to him: "... (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger..." [4:59]

6. Allah also calls all people who accept Allah but refute the Messenger as 'Real Kafirs': "Verily, those who deny All�h and His Messengers and (those who) wish to separate Allah from His Messengers (by believing in All�h and disbelieving in His Messengers), saying: "We believe in some but reject others": and (those who) wish to adopt a way in between. They are in truth (equally) Unbelievers; and We have prepared for Unbelievers a humiliating Punishment. To those who believe in Allahand His Messengers and make no distinction between any of the Messengers, We shall soon give their (due) rewards: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful." [4:150-153]
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 9th March 2015 17:15
MashaAllah good stuff.

Mahdi according to Sunnies is a very basic concept without much complications.
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 9th March 2015 17:25
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He's not significant, WE MADE HIM significant, in reality the authentic narrations barely ever touch upon him, he's neither in the Qur'an or the Sahihayn, but we Muslims love to dream and fantasize so we invented many stories and legends about this "Mahdi".
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